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	<title>Comments on: Where are you, Bobby Kennedy?  The Mindless Menace Continues</title>
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		<title>By: Gabor Melli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabor Melli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is further counter evidence on violence.
http://blog.ted.com/2007/09/steven_pinker.php

As for charismatic politico-types, they are always being born. It&#039;s just that they are neither opting for a life in politics or don&#039;t survive against those with other political talents... This reminds of my lament at the absence of musical and literary genius (Bach/Mozart/Beethoven/Dvorak/Stravinski; Dostoevsky/Tolstoy/Proust/Joyce). My working answer is that they now opt for a different profession... You could of course get on some politico&#039;s support team; but I question the return on your investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is further counter evidence on violence.<br />
<a href="http://blog.ted.com/2007/09/steven_pinker.php" rel="nofollow">http://blog.ted.com/2007/09/steven_pinker.php</a></p>
<p>As for charismatic politico-types, they are always being born. It&#8217;s just that they are neither opting for a life in politics or don&#8217;t survive against those with other political talents&#8230; This reminds of my lament at the absence of musical and literary genius (Bach/Mozart/Beethoven/Dvorak/Stravinski; Dostoevsky/Tolstoy/Proust/Joyce). My working answer is that they now opt for a different profession&#8230; You could of course get on some politico&#8217;s support team; but I question the return on your investment.</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the CBC article :
&quot;Driven by a decline in non-violent felonies, Canada&#039;s crime rate reached a 25-year low...&quot;
&quot;However, the report also found that even though the overall rates decreased, those for more serious violent offences have remained steady from 2005...&quot;
&quot;&lt;strong&gt;More people committed violent offences, such as attempted murder, aggravated assault, assault with a weapon, robbery, kidnapping and forcible confinement...&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;

Yes, the next line talks about homicides dropping, but violent crimes in general have increased, to the point where criminologist Ron Melchers, interviewed for the article, refers to a &quot;disturbing trend.&quot;  He also comments on an increase in violent crime among teenagers - which supports my argument about swagger and violence, despised by RFK, becoming the measure of the uncertain man.

As for our own complacency, this is a subjective take on the three decades I&#039;ve been following Canadian politics.  Love him or hate him, Trudeau was passionate and vibrant.  He was sufficiently charismatic, dynamic, and intellectual to play on the world stage. Harper shows no evidence of any of that.

I wasn&#039;t trying to make a rebuttable presumption; this was not a scientific argument and was not meant to be.  It is a political argument that we don&#039;t seem to be able even to try to bring passionate leaders to the national stage (the only passionate people we put there turn Parliament into a circus and continue to degrade the once noble status of the NDP as a viable opposition; now they are a VW full of loud clowns).
The demand is down, but it should not be.  &lt;em&gt;This is not about someone who brings in tough crime laws, although Kennedy did that as Attorney General when JFK was president; it is about someone who grabs our national image, our collective personality, and says, &quot;Grow up!  Be a leader; be a pillar; show your neighbours how to be a mentsch!&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the CBC article :<br />
&#8220;Driven by a decline in non-violent felonies, Canada&#8217;s crime rate reached a 25-year low&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;However, the report also found that even though the overall rates decreased, those for more serious violent offences have remained steady from 2005&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;<strong>More people committed violent offences, such as attempted murder, aggravated assault, assault with a weapon, robbery, kidnapping and forcible confinement&#8230;</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, the next line talks about homicides dropping, but violent crimes in general have increased, to the point where criminologist Ron Melchers, interviewed for the article, refers to a &#8220;disturbing trend.&#8221;  He also comments on an increase in violent crime among teenagers &#8211; which supports my argument about swagger and violence, despised by RFK, becoming the measure of the uncertain man.</p>
<p>As for our own complacency, this is a subjective take on the three decades I&#8217;ve been following Canadian politics.  Love him or hate him, Trudeau was passionate and vibrant.  He was sufficiently charismatic, dynamic, and intellectual to play on the world stage. Harper shows no evidence of any of that.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to make a rebuttable presumption; this was not a scientific argument and was not meant to be.  It is a political argument that we don&#8217;t seem to be able even to try to bring passionate leaders to the national stage (the only passionate people we put there turn Parliament into a circus and continue to degrade the once noble status of the NDP as a viable opposition; now they are a VW full of loud clowns).<br />
The demand is down, but it should not be.  <em>This is not about someone who brings in tough crime laws, although Kennedy did that as Attorney General when JFK was president; it is about someone who grabs our national image, our collective personality, and says, &#8220;Grow up!  Be a leader; be a pillar; show your neighbours how to be a mentsch!&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Gabor Melli</title>
		<link>http://weblawg.costinmedia.com/wp/legal-explorations/where-are-you-bobby-kennedy/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabor Melli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please provide evidence to support your argument of &quot;complacency&quot;. And ideally point to the counter evidence that throws your hypothesis in question? Counter evidence could include the historically low crime rate statistics 
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/07/18/crime-stats.html

Thus the supply of heroic figures may down simply because the demand for them is down.

--G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please provide evidence to support your argument of &#8220;complacency&#8221;. And ideally point to the counter evidence that throws your hypothesis in question? Counter evidence could include the historically low crime rate statistics<br />
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/07/18/crime-stats.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/07/18/crime-stats.html</a></p>
<p>Thus the supply of heroic figures may down simply because the demand for them is down.</p>
<p>&#8211;G</p>
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